Khan Wrenth
Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation
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Posted - 2016.12.02 13:59:15 -
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I try not to be in the habit of repeating what others have said, so I'll just post this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=479121
Read it. Read ALL of it.
Years ago I argued against the watchlist on these forums because I felt it needed counterplay. Since it lacked that, I said I wanted it to go. Cue "careful what you wish for", because it's gone but Ralph, Lord Raz, and the Devils Rejects have made me a convert.
(yes it IS possible to convert some people's opinions on the internet, articulating a good point goes a long way towards that)
Trying to track down people in EvE is exceedingly difficult work. Even when the watchlist was in play, it was time-consuming and took dedicated work to track down and destroy a target. Merc corps like the Devils are like a modern day cruise missile - they exist to strike and devastate a small, precise area. And the watchlist was an important tool they needed in order to execute their contracts. Again, how do you strike against a corp that scatters to the four winds and alters their playstyle as soon as the wardec drops?
Like it or not, their playstyle needs to be defended. ALL playstyles need defended - the more people playing the game, the more immersive and amazing the collective experience is. And any inference that small, elite, precise-striking corps don't belong in EvE does a disservice to us all.
Let me be clear about this - I'm not a friend of any Devils nor do I know any of them personally. And I'm more likely to be on the receiving end of their business than employing it. But this game needs a lot less people leaving because their way of EvE life just got patched out of existence. So yes, even if I end up getting podded by Ralph someday, I will defend his playstyle and the role he plays in the large ecosystem of EvE online.
I've been on the receiving end of a hundred wardecs. Unfortunately I've never been in a corp that worked well under them. Most of them eventually disbanded, as is by design. But yes, it doesn't matter what work you do to track down and scout targets before a wardec. The dec changes everything. You know what I used to do, back when the watchlist existed and I got wardeced? I had the only resource available to counter the watchlist intel - a computer I could leave logged in. So I did. Every day at uptime, I'd find a random system, get to a safe spot, cloak up, and stay in there all day while I went about my life. Sometimes I'd randomly change systems or jump clone so if they ran locates, they might think I'm on the move. So what does your scouting beforehand do about that? Nothing, that's what.
I believe they need and deserve more tools at their disposal. To their credit, they're not asking for all that much. F- that. I believe EvE would be a much better place when there's a lot more tools in the sandbox for everyone to find creative uses for. I want them to have a limited watchlist that only works on pilots undocked and in k-space (so docking and wormhole diving becomes counterplay). I want them to have locator agents say the target is on or offline, but also give ship information so they know what they're looking for. I want locator agents to work faster and not have a "cooldown" time.
EvE has room for improvement, and the more tools that are in the sandbox, the better off we all are. We should be *expanding* the available playstyles in EvE (highsec merc, smuggler, pirate, etc), not diminishing them.
Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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